Platypus confounds Evolution

26/04/2009

by Ken E Murray

Platypus are unique in all of God’s creation and leave evolutionists stunned and flat-footed.

 

Platypus smile at evolution with a knowing smile

Platypus smile at evolution with a knowing smile

“Old Flatfoot”, which is what Platypus means, (Greek: Platys = broad and pous=foot) is perfectly designed for its environment on which it depends for its survival.

When we look at the pointers of proof of God’s existence, as Designer, Creator, Lifegiver, Lawgiver, and Sustainer, we see all of these elements in a Platypus.

We also see how impossible it would be for a Platypus to evolve.

Native only to Australia, the platypus appears to be a “patchwork” animal to evolutionists in their frustrated efforts to try to imaginatively connect its evolution from about 5 widely differing creatures, nowhere near each other in the fanciful “evolutionary tree”. 

Platypus have a bill like a duck (but much more sophisticated), webbed feet like an otter …but which retract and have claws for digging, the males have poisonous spurs in their hind legs like a snake, its tail is like a beaver but covered with fur and not scales. It lays eggs but suckles its young through secretion of milk on its under hairs. 

No wonder Evolutionists are baffled by its existence. Platypus are an amazing complex designed, brilliantly created monotreme mammal, given life, and laws that govern its sustenance. It even bamboozles the pseudo-god of “natural selection”.

 

Male platypus poison spur

Male platypus poison spur

At birth all platypus, male and female, are born with poisonous spurs, but, get this fact…after one year the females poisonous spurs fall off! Now, if survival of the fittest is the determining regime …evolutionists go figure?

The male uses his poisonous spurs in the August-September mating season to ward off other male platypus and can inject a potent poison into any predator, which causes a nasty pain. However, during courtship the male uses his spurs gently to hold the female, without injecting the poison. It is the only venomous furred animal.

The crural gland produces a cocktail of venom, composed of over 250 different chemicals but with four major toxins.

 

Close up of male platypus poison spur

Close up of male platypus poison spur

Of the four, three are defensin-like proteins (DLPs) unique to the Platypus. The different chemicals in the poison have a range of effects from lowering blood pressure to causing pain and increasing blood flow around the wound.
Now, please explain to me, how the platypus invented and evolved this unique poison out of 250 different chemicals??
What an amazing design, created into life and sustained by an all-wise Creator.
The waterproof hair of a platypus is nothing short of extraordinary. Their outer hair is dark brown with yellowish hair on its underside. There are about 800 hairs per square millimetre! This is denser than the fur of the river otter or polar bear. It has 2 layers of hair. The top or longer layer is a shiny guard fur with a woolly short fur undercoat. The thermal qualities of the fur allow the platypus to withstand cold temperatures and extended periods in water and underground.

Christ said: “…you cannot make one hair white or black.” (Matthew 5:36)  Plainly, not even humans, with all our intelligence, can choose the colour of our hair, let alone 2 layers of waterproof different coloured hair at 800 per square millimetre!

The platypus pliable bill is an amazing engineering feat! The bill contains an electro-receptor system which has about 850,000 electrical and tactile receptors. Even though the platypus has brilliant eyes and ears above water, special membranes seal off its eyes and ears underwater and it fishes for its food, blind! Again …evolutionists go figure?

Its electo-receptor system detects the electric currents created by the muscle activity of small prey such as worms, shrimp, and frogs, and may even help the platypus detect the electric field created when water flows over prey hidden under rocks, mud and small debris.

 

Grinding bill of Platypus jaw. Notice the engineered ribbing for crushing and elimination of debris

Grinding bill of Platypus jaw. Notice the engineered ribbing for crushing and elimination of debris

As the platypus gathers food in its mouth during its up to 10 minute stay underwater, it moves the food to its cheek pouches. At the water surface, it pushes the food from its cheek pouches up to its mouth. It has magnificently engineered ribbed grinding pads for crushing the food and dispensing the unwanted mud and debris through its horny serrations.

Platypus ears or grooves are very sensitive to sounds. Its beady eyes are also very sensitive to movement. That is why it is difficult and rare to see them in the wild.

Its 4 legs are a marvel of engineered design and creation as well. The platypus uses its two front feet to propel itself forward in a unique, alternate rowing motion. Its hind feet, also webbed, are held against the body and along with the tail are used for steering. The marine engineering involved with how the platypus can move so quickly and dextrously in the water, is nothing short of awesome!

On land its webs fold back, revealing sharp claws for walking and digging burrows. Its claws are also useful for cleaning its fur and to help keep its fur brushed and waterproof.

 

Rubbery coated platypus egg

Rubbery coated platypus egg

They dig a camping burrow about 1-3 meters long in stream banks. However, the female digs her nesting burrow up to 20 metres long! She lays 2-3 rubbery eggs and when they hatch she suckles them on specially designed milk glands. Her milk has about 60 times more iron than cows milk and 40% more solids. The young lap the milk from the hair of the underbelly, where the milk drips, in utter darkness.

The platypus tail is a wonderment. It is used as a sensitive rudder when swimming; to push soil within the burrow like a shovel; and to store fat for when food supplies are low or for when the platypus needs more energy in store while incubating eggs. Thereby hangs a tail, for evolutionists to ponder.

Platypus red blood cells carry larger amounts of haemoglobin than any other mammal. This allows it to go without air for long periods and for its heart beat to be able to change from 140-230 beats to almost 0 beats per minute.

Unlike reptiles, Platypus are warm-blooded and not cold-blooded. They have one opening for elimination, mating and birth.

There is nothing “transitional” about the platypus. It is highly intelligent and remarkably built to fit its environment. In fact, it is an integral part of its environment functioning in balance. Without its surrounding natural environmental system, platypus could not exist.

 

Mother platypus suckling babies

Mother platypus suckling babies

Evolutionists claim that the gradual evolution of animals such as the Platypus was determined by the blind per-chance pseudo-god of “natural selection” …and highly complex intricate creatures like the platypus, simply came into being by “adaption” or some sort of required “change” due to changing environment.

Do you know what happens to platypus when their delicate environment changes? Sadly, they die. They are so sensitive that many have perished in the hands of well meaning humans, collecting them for zoos and wildlife sanctuaries.

There is no fossil record of changes or transformations or “natural selection” of the development of platypus. They had to be created perfectly, as well as their unique inter-connected, inter-dependent environment and food sources or else they would die.

The preposterous idea that somehow platypus thought their way to change to become what they are today, is baloney. It is a hoax of the 1st Order.

“Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? …” (Jeremiah 13:23)

No, we cannot change the colour of our skin, just as the leopard cannot change its spots  …and nor can the amazingly designed and engineered platypus change, by thinking about it.

It is magnificently designed, engineered, created, and given life and sustenance by its omnipotent Creator.

Let’s be logical. Let’s go back to the future for the moment millions and millions of years ago …even quintillions for the sake of evolutionists.

 

Multifaceted platypus perfectly designed and created for its environment

Multifaceted platypus perfectly designed and created for its environment

Let’s say he lives beside a stream but he can’t swim yet, and like any other normal burrowing animal, he has claws only for digging, but hasn’t developed retractable webbed feet, nor developed a tail for a keel, nor developed the means to seal off his nostrils and hold his breath nor developed waterproof hair at 800 per square millimetre.

The hungry “platywhatever”, launches off into the stream, for whatever insane reason. It can’t see, can’t swim, can’t go underwater, and can’t find any food. If there was no worm food on the land, then why didn’t all creatures on earth, with a similar diet, throw themselves into the water?

If the first “platywhatever” had to evolve water-feeding apparatus and sensitive electro-sonar bills, then he only evolved it because he needed it. And if he needed it then he wasn’t getting enough food where he was, to survive.

But, if he couldn’t have survived where he was …and obviously couldn’t succeed in obtaining food from stream bottoms until he had gradually over millions of years developed them within his 15 year maximum lifespan …then he obviously starved to death, and doesn’t exist today.

 

No "intermediate" fossils of Platypus exist

No "intermediate" fossils of Platypus exist

But, then, if a male or female evolved …where then was a female or male close by to mate with?

No worries …hey presto! A genie provides a female. Yes …and pigs fly, too!

Babies are born to the “platywhatever”, but the special technique of secreting milk on a given signal that involves a complexity of hormones, nerve endings and sensory techniques in pitched black darkness have not evolved. So, all the young die, too.

All fossil remains of platypuses found look exactly like “modern” platypus. It is called a “living fossil” because, in the geological record, it has never changed.

“Unhappily, no fossils have yet been found in any continent which reveal the lineage of the monotremes (single vent, or the platypus) prior to the last few million years in Australia itself” (The Land and Wildlife of Australia, Life Nature Library, David Bergamini, page 62, 65)

So, how to evolutionists say they know the platypus evolved? Easy. They just say it.

Every untruth is based on a false premise, that is carelessly assumed.

For the invisible things of him (God) from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,…

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient (right);…”  (Romans 1:20-28)

 

Platypus camping burrow

Platypus camping burrow

The fact that a platypus was thought out in detail, with genius design, carefully planned, then created magnificently in all of its engineering and complicated detail, even to electronic mind-blowing sensitivity, then given life and ongoing sustained power …never occurs to an evolutionist, for the reasons shown in the verses above.
No fossil record exists of “primitivus beaverus otterus, duckus, beakus, snakeus, eggus, suckleus incredibilus”.Here’s the first “platywhatever” but without his beaver’s tail, duck’s sonar sensitive bill, snake fangs, otter’s body, mammal’s glands, warm blood, or turtles eggs, etc,.

The brain of a platypus is known to be surprisingly large in proportion to its body weight and than that of any reptile. It is mysteriously well endowed with cerebral cortex and intelligence and highly sensitive electro-recognition, far removed from that of reptiles. This also, is a problem for evolutionists who desperately try to link mammalian warm-blooded platypus, with small brained, cold-blooded reptiles.  Nice try, but it just doesn’t compute.

Every intricate part of a platypus takes its place in a co-ordinated, functional, complicated system that makes the platypus one of the awe-inspiring creatures we see, today.

The platypus is one of zillions of amazing creatures that God has made, that testify to why God inspired these following wise words to be repeated twice, so hopefully, we might get the point:

“Only a fool says in his heart that there is no God.” (Psalm 14:1; Psalm 53:1-2)

Meantime …keep pumpin’!

Ken E Murray

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Video of Platypus feeding in Mossman Gorge

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Lightning Proof of God

05/04/2009

by Ken E Murray

How is lightning like a novice violinist’s fingers?

Lightning striking Eiffel Tower, 1902

Lightning striking Eiffel Tower, 1902

   Neither one strikes the same place twice.   🙂

Here’s another humourous intriguing question:

How did lightning and thunder, along with the vital life supporting lightning-nitrogen cycle, evolve?

No one Evolutionist strikes the same answer twice.

Lightning is like the 100 or so non-living elements on earth. How they came to exist in the first place is a complete mystery to evolutionists.

Here’s a couple of theories about the original cause and evolution of lighting from chats I have been having with some seriously minded Evolutionists:

“I’ve been out of active meteorological research for some time but I keep an interested eye on the field. Lightning was probably triggered by energy in the flux of cosmic rays to Earth and cosmic ray fluxes vary in time.” (Physicist, Holwick, UK)

“It started out with single volt lightnings that spontaneously appeared, and after millions of years of chance they’re now millions and millions of volts, and contain multiple branches, and evolved thunder as a defence mechanism.  Oh and the Nitrogen Cycle is a distant ancestor of these primitive 1 Volt lightnings. By chance it became the nitrogen cycle over a trillion years. I’m an Atheist, Hail Satan.”  (Software Developer, Nuneaton, UK)

Really? …can you pick the basic flaws in these theories?  Why not drop me an email.

No laboratory lightning experiment has ever produced life from non-life.

Lightning bolts destroy Evolutionist theory

Lightning bolts destroy Evolutionist theory

God taunts and has fun with evolutionists: Job 38:35 Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto you, Here we are? (Job 38:35).

Yet, Evolutionists speculate that perhaps a lightning bolt struck the “prebiotic soup” that instigated all life on this planet. Now, really?! Lightning kills; it does not impart life!

Fact is …Once lightning has passed through an object, no living energy remains. Yet living creatures must have ongoing energy sources within themselves to exist. N

Hello???  Evolutionists out there in cyberspace!!!

Hellooo!!! …Lightning is a sterilizer NOT a lifegiver!

It never engendered or stimulated life in some ancient “prebiotic soup”. That is a HOAX!

No …even a child has the observed wisdom to know WHO created lightning.

God's Flash Camera

God’s Flash Camera

School was out and a little child was trekking home, while an afternoon gale filled with lightning, was brewing. Mother in a very concerned state anxiously left home to find her child in the roar of thunder and lightning. Suddenly, she saw her child in between dazzling flashes through the hazy misted rain. She noticed her child with every crash of thunder and flash of lightning …stop …look up …and smile.

Worried sick, she pulled the car up, wound the window down and cried: “What on earth are you doing? Why do you keep stopping, looking up, and smiling??

“Her child answered: “I am trying to look nice. God keeps taking my picture!”

Job understood too, that God created the powerful force of lightning:

“When He (God) made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:” (Job 28:26)

“He directs it under the whole heaven, and His lightnings unto the ends of the earth.” (Job 37:3)

The origin of how lightning came into existence is an anathema and mystery to evolutionists.

So many aspects of the “way for the lightning of the thunder” are still a great mystery to scientists.

Honest scientists freely admit: “As common as lightning is, it still sparks considerable confusion among scientists.

Many of the basics are understood, but researchers admit they don’t really understand how lightning gets from there to here (“the way for the lightning of the thunder”). And they’re totally baffled by lightning’s link to X-rays, a discovery made back in 2001.

“Nobody understands how lightning makes X-rays,” says Martin Uman, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at the University of Florida. “Despite reaching temperatures five times hotter than the surface of the sun, the temperature of lightning is still thousands of times too cold to account for the X-rays observed.” Live Science 17 July 2008.

So …how did lightning evolve over eons of trillions of years of time? 

Hello?  Lightning is a non-living incredibly potent powerful force.

It either had to come into being ONCE, perfectly, with all of its complexity …or not at all!

Its design, complexity, and importance to the sustenance of every living thing …points to lightning proof of God.

In simple language Lightning comes from differences in electrical charges that occur in thunderstorm clouds or between a thunderstorm cloud and the ground. As a thunderstorm grows to the point where its top extends to above the freezing level, a charge separation begins to develop, with positively charged particles accumulating near the top of the thunderstorm cloud and negatively charged particles near the base.

How lightning on earth and in the upper atmosphere evolved as a non-living thing is bamboozling to Evolutionists

So how does science try to explain how lightning works, even though many aspects of its workings and functions still remains as a scientific mystery?

This charge separation is likely a result of small ice particles and hailstones colliding with each other in the updrafts and downdrafts of a thunderstorm. When the difference in electrical voltage between these charged particles becomes large enough, an electrical discharge occurs in an attempt to equalize the charge separation. This is lightning.

“When He utters His voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens; and He causes the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth: He makes lightnings with rain, and brings forth the wind out of His treasures.” (Jeremiah 51:16)

Evolutionists cannot explain cloud to cloud lightning

Evolutionists cannot explain cloud to cloud lightning

About 80 percent of all lightning is cloud-to-cloud lightning, which occurs within a thunderstorm cloud. The remaining 20 percent is cloud-to-ground lightning, in which a charge separation develops between the negatively charged particles in the cloud base and positively charged particles near the ground.

Lightning and its vital myriad complex component parts, is an incredible pointer to the design and creative genius of God our Father and Jesus Christ, who created all things. (Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16)

Miracle of the “Lightning-Nitrogen” Cycle

We take lightning for granted, but few people realise that we depend on it to continue our human existence on this earth, via the Lightning-Nitrogen Cycle.

Most don’t understand that there is an almost constant discharge of electricity from our Earth.

Over the whole globe the total is only about 1500 amps with expenditure of about 50,000 kilowatts. This was first discovered in 1917, by Dr Vannevar Bush.

He found that the current comes from the still air lying above the clouds of thunderstorms. The current there is going downward instead of upward.

Now, the amount of it that reaches the earth, over all the World, is estimated to total …well, what do you think?  Yes, you are right …1500 amps!!

This cycle goes on steadily in magnificent perfect harmony and balance.

Explain that by evolution?!

There are over 16 million thunderstorms over the World, every year.

These thunderstorms, with the accompanying lightning, produce about 100,000 tons of nitrogen compounds annually, dropped into the soil, to fertilise it so things that we eat can grow.

No lightning-nitrogen cycle?  We no eat!

No “nitrogen-fixing” with lightning and specialist bacteria …plants could not absorb the necessary nitrogen to live.  We all die!

You see, Nitrogen is an inert gas (doesn’t easily mix with other elements or water) …fortunately …otherwise it would mix with water and we’d all die a death worse than millions of nuclear bombs …eaten away by nitric acid.

Plants cannot absorb nitrogen directly out of the atmosphere, so guess what? They get their “nitrogen-fix” through lightning turning nitrogen and oxygen with some ammonia, which can then dissolve into the falling rain and becomes just the very best fertiliser. This requires intense heat from lightning (5 times hotter than the surface of the Sun). Also, with the help of nitrogen-fixing specialist bacteria.

Evolutionists, I defy you to explain how that all came about, perfectly in the first instance …or no life could be sustained on the Earth!  These are non-living things and energy forces and elements that don’t evolve through “natural selection”. They have no mind or ongoing regenerated life of their own.

But how did Nitrogen (78%) happen to be in the atmosphere with oxygen (21%) at just the perfect ratio?

An error in making even one gas would have made the Earth uninhabitable.

Just a little more or less of either nitrogen or oxygen, would have tipped an imperfect balance of disaster upon us all.

God’s nitrogen cycle is as important to us as the “carbon cycle” of photosynthesis by which plants recapture carbon dioxide from the air and convert the carbon into organic compounds.

The nitrogen fixers and the photosynthetic organisms, linked in a majestic partnership, keep the living economy of the world solvent.

Lightning has a vital role in replacing nitrogen in the soil, so that plants can assimilate it. 100 million tons of usable plant food per year is supplied to the soil by lightning.

Nitrogen and oxygen are combined by lightning into plant food.

Lightning in the nitrogen-cycle and carbon cycle, is another witness to the fact of Almighty God’s genius in designing and creating the World in awesome wisdom …past finding out.

God made it self-supporting, to the finest tuned mind-boggling details, in perfect balance and harmony.  Lightning proof of God!

Scientists estimate that at any given moment about 2,000 thunderstorms are producing lightning around the earth. These storms shoot an average estimated 100 bolts.

The average lightning stroke has a peak electrical current of 30,000 amps. Extreme lightning discharges can reach 10 times that. The electricity flowing within a lightning bolt can reach 200 million volts, and kills, instantly.

Ball lightning too hot for Evolutionists to handle

Ball lightning too hot for Evolutionists to handle

Ball lightning is extremely rare, as a floating sphere, often about the size of a basketball.  The origins of ball lightning continue to elude scientists .

Other baffling forms of lightning, that God has created, include:

·         Forked lightning: Crooked or branched channels in a lightning stroke. Occasionally these strike up to 16km away from a thunderstorm. If the sky overhead is clear when the renegade lightning strikes, these “bolts from the blue” will seem to appear out of nowhere.

·         Sheet lightning: Stroke appears within a cloud or is obscured by nearby clouds. Flashes of lightning can illuminate entire clouds, making them visible from miles away.

·         Heat lightning: It’s called heat lightning because it is seen more frequently on hot summer nights when the sky overhead is clear. Often, air molecules and dust particles in the atmosphere refract the light coming from distant lightning, making the bolts or flashes appear orange.

·         Ball lightning: Extremely rare, nearly phantom, luminous spheres. Less than three feet wide, these glowing balls have been seen coming from some of the more violent thunderstorms;

·         St. Elmo’s Fire: Luminous greenish or bluish glow above pointed objects on the ground. Named for the mythical ‘patron saint of sailors’, St. Elmo’s Fire is created by the soft glow of an electric field generated by a continuous flow of tiny sparks. The tiny sparks are positive charge reaching skyward in response to a growing area of negative charge in the clouds or air above. High-altitude lightning: Recently-discovered colored flashes of light high above thunderstorms. Playful names such as “red sprites,” “blue jets,” and “green elves” have been given to these distinctly different forms of lightning. They shoot up from the tops of thunderstorms about the same moment lightning discharges within the storm cloud. Occurring in the middle of the atmosphere, red sprites look like the stems of carrots, while blue jets are small streaks of light with flared ends like the horn of trumpet. Green elves are nearly-invisible, glowing, jellyfish-shaped amoebas that spread across the upper atmosphere.

Yes, the way of the lightning of thunder as Job again describes in Job 38:25: (“Who has divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;”) is still a mystery but scientists have tried to explain it.

In ‘forked’ or ‘branch lightning’, the way of the lightning of thunder is described as a single stepped leader that happens in less than a second:

·         The stepped leader is a stream of weakly charged particles. It’s not very bright because so little charge flows from the cloud.

·         The stream moves downward out of the cloud in fits and starts, travelling about from just centimetres to 50 metres before stopping, and quickly starting again. With a duration of less than one-millionth of a second, the leader pauses about 50 microseconds, branching numbers of times, before taking the next step;

·         Most stepped leaders take only 1/20th of a second to reach their full length. As a stepped leader nears the ground, it attracts a surge of positive charge that streams skyward from the tallest nearby objects. The stepped leader and “streamers” typically meet around 100 to 300 feet above the Earth.

·         Since the atmosphere is a good insulator, this weak charge snakes its way downward, often branching, trying to find the path of least resistance toward oppositely charged particles.

·         When each branch of a stepped leader forking from the cloud meets a rising streamer, multiple return strokes are generated.

·         Each return stroke travels from the ground to the cloud in less than a half second, so all the channels appear to light up at the same time as forked lightning.

Awesome to think about, isn’t it?

Very different from my mind at times…:)

My mind works like lightning, One brilliant flash and it is gone!  (Heh heh!)

An average bolt of lightning can soar to temperatures of approximately 50,000°F, five times hotter than the surface of the sun, and can contain as much as 200 million volts of electricity. A typical bolt is about 5 to 6 kilometres in length, but some have been measured as long as 144 kilometres, or as short as a couple of metres.

Thunder is the sound that lightning makes, it is not a separate force.

Job described it well as the way of the lightning of thunder.

The reason why some people think lightning is separate from thunder is because they experience them separately. However, we see lightning instantaneously because it travels 186,000 miles per second …the speed of light. Thunder moves at the speed of sound – 1100 ft per second, thus the delay in seeing and hearing.

When you see lightning count the seconds and divide by 5 or 2.5. That’s the number of miles or kilometres away the lightning struck. Useful, in giving you a warning of how far a storm is away from you.

“For as the lightning comes out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” (Matthew 24:27)

Christ's coming will be more dazzling than lightning, when the 1st Resurrection takes place

Christ’s coming will be more dazzling than lightning, when the 1st Resurrection takes place

There is, of course, a very extraordinarily special day of lightning that many of us long for from God…

So thrilling a time to look forward to in our lives …it’s worth repeating:

“For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.” (Luke 17:24)

Yes Christ is returning to this Earth as our Creator …with the indescribable power of innumerable lighting bolts.

Pray that God hastens “that day”. (Zechariah 14;4)

Meantime …keep pumpin’!

Ken E Murray

PS:  You can obtain FREE copies of this literature and the FREE Good News Magazine by contacting the United Church of God-Australia, Office on FREE CALL 1800 356202 or write to: PO Box 535, Brisbane, Qld 4001 OR as shown under Literature Request  on the Church webpage  …OR you can FREE download by clicking on to:  Bible Study Course AND Does God Exist? AND Creation or Evolution? AND  Radio interview – Does God Exist?.

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